Disclaimer: Before all of you libertines who may or may not infest this website go crazy on me, I have to tell you that these viewpoints are those of a white, Christian, straight, American, middle-class male with no neuroses, injuries, disabilities, or anything preventing me from being the "favored class" of Americans. If you wish to blast my views as "insensitive" or "the view from the top", "the monotheistic view", "Christian bias" or even "that's the kind of androcentric, heterosexist, imperialist stuff which oppresses women" go ahead. I'll point out any and ALL logical fallacies which you will assuredly throw my way in vain hope of disproving me, dissuading me, or trying to make me change my mind.
Before it was shamelessly copied by Sigmund Fraud, the Great Philosopher Plato had the notion of a tripartite soul:
The Appetitive soul: This is the one which all of the crazy people cannot seem to get over. Better known as the Id, this part of one's self is focused on... base functions. Those who embrace this are intemperate. I was never a part of those people... A society based on this is a nation of filthy pigs.
The Spirited soul: Known as the ego, this part of oneself is concerned with appearing to be good without necessarily being good. It is the love of honor, or at least, honorable appearance which drives the people who elevate this part of their soul to its primacy. When I was an atheist, I was concerned about APPEARING good without actually making any effort to actually BE good; so much so, that I LIED to people to make myself appear more intelligent than I actually was. That's right; love of honor made me lie to people. I sinned. I admit it. Fully. A state based on love of honor is likely to be a military one. Since such a state is based on the APPEARANCE and PRESUMPTION of honor and not necessarily honor itself, it will be full of pretensions and lies. Where have we seen this before? This is known as the Ego.
The Rational soul: The highest part of a human being and the most important for a civilized life, the rational soul is our conscience, logic, reason, and guide to what is the RIGHT thing, not simply the easy thing. I know it sounds stupid, but I actually admire the arts I selected under my favorites for their aesthetics, not any lewdness; if I wanted that (lewdness), I'd go to a far, far worse website. Anyway, a state based on love of wisdom is a happy land, full of reason and morality, and free from "King wrath" and "Queen hysteria." The rational soul is the only way to happiness; it will not be found in any person, place or thing in the world around oneself. This is also known as the Superego.
And YES, if I were any more religious, I would be preaching to you outright. As it is, I have NOT mentioned the Bible once, just morality. And yes, I am effectively pro-life. At least I'm not for giving big business control over the government, environment and the healthcare system... damn plutocrats...
Tripartite division of the soul.
I'm pretty busy, so I make this short: your last comment made me think and I came to one great decision!
I am going to make a sketch (a graphic) of the BLOODLINES of my most important reptilian characters!! Names, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters... and then, it's visible to everyone!
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"Reports of my assimilation have been greatly exaggerated." (Captain Jean-Luc Picard)
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Good character is doing the right thing when no ones looking.
The arguments in favor of each inhuman system (slavery and abortion) essentially favor privacy rights over human rights, and warp science to deny recognition of the humanity of certain groups (slaves and the unborn.)
20 years before the civil war, abolitionists were considered to be "religious fringe lunatics", and indeed, some of them were, especially John Brown, who was FAR worse than any abortion clinic sniper. 20 years later, the abolitionists had won.
Other parallels include a bad supreme court case which supports the "right" in question (Dred Scott v. Sanford and Roe v. Wade, respectively.)
Sadly, human society seems to have a tendency to "switch evils" when one is overcome; when slavery ended, we introduced Jim Crow, and when that ended, we had Roe v. Wade... When Roe falls (sooner or later...), we will probably think of some other insidious scheme to dehumanize people to benefit a few...Maybe something involving fully-grown human clones being used as organ banks to be slaughtered at will...
What are your thoughts on Cloning?
i myself am on the fence. Sure it isn't Natural way to have babies but by the same token if that is the case how many people would have died in Child birth over the years. I can't imagine a C-Section is Considered Natural.
So would growing human tissue be okay/Moral?
Again from my understanding i see nothing wrong with it. we can grow vaccines and cures for illness. And in terms of Growing a full human living human being, well i can't see us having the technology to Create a cousicousness with out better understanding of the field. So if say we truely cannot create "life energy" if you will to make the cloned body move than we'd have nothing more than an empty shell Yes? So then this "person"/person may or may not be considered in a vegatative state. If considered alive at all. But if people wish to harvest organs from the body than it would have to be alive so the organs were usable. Now to clear something up i am not saying that anyone that suffers an injury that leaves them in a vegatative is not human. By all means that is not what i'm saying. But How do we tell if a person's "Soul" still resides within the body?
Obviously if the cloned person developed understanding and even showed signs of basic animal instincts than we would have no choice but to allow them rights. So again How do we tell if the "soul" resides within the body? What's more is, Can/could we at anytime have the ability to create such an energy identified as a "soul"? if we did then i would certainly agree that we have trully found the way to "play God". Up until that point i have seen nothing wrong with cloning. Just what to do once we can.
So i was just wanted to see some other thoughts on it and figured this was a good a spot as any. Sorry if I've created an issue for ya.
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Always ready to bust some heads.
"Your brain gets smart but your head gets dumb."
- Not me....look it up
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Always ready to bust some heads.
"Your brain gets smart but your head gets dumb."
- Not me....look it up
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