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hi, I was browsing around deviantART and came across a conversation between you and another deviant and you're conversation (well, more of an argument) about how Jesus was male and how he came to die for our sins....I was spellboud, lol, thanks for displaying you're courage and theological knowledge, lol......it was something I hadn't seen in a long time.....someone standing up for what they believed in.. thanks for displaying that courage.
And thank you for complimenting on that. Yes, I know, there is a lot of arguing on this site, but some constructive conversation does come out of it on occassion. Thanks for the comment.
Heyas! I'm pretty busy, so I make this short: your last comment made me think and I came to one great decision! I am going to make a sketch (a graphic) of the BLOODLINES of my most important reptilian characters!! Names, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters... and then, it's visible to everyone! Thanks for the inspiration.
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"Reports of my assimilation have been greatly exaggerated." (Captain Jean-Luc Picard)
Keep in mind that "pro-choice" means "pro-abortion." An analogy to this is being "pro-choice" on slavery. If one was to say "I don't personally want to own a slave, but I support the right of the people who do", then we obviously know that that person supports slavery, as we all know that SOME people would make the choice to own slaves if they could, or at least, this was the case over 150 years ago...
The arguments in favor of each inhuman system (slavery and abortion) essentially favor privacy rights over human rights, and warp science to deny recognition of the humanity of certain groups (slaves and the unborn.)
20 years before the civil war, abolitionists were considered to be "religious fringe lunatics", and indeed, some of them were, especially John Brown, who was FAR worse than any abortion clinic sniper. 20 years later, the abolitionists had won.
Other parallels include a bad supreme court case which supports the "right" in question (Dred Scott v. Sanford and Roe v. Wade, respectively.)
Sadly, human society seems to have a tendency to "switch evils" when one is overcome; when slavery ended, we introduced Jim Crow, and when that ended, we had Roe v. Wade... When Roe falls (sooner or later...), we will probably think of some other insidious scheme to dehumanize people to benefit a few...Maybe something involving fully-grown human clones being used as organ banks to be slaughtered at will...
Quick question to your last sentence in this comment. What are your thoughts on Cloning? i myself am on the fence. Sure it isn't Natural way to have babies but by the same token if that is the case how many people would have died in Child birth over the years. I can't imagine a C-Section is Considered Natural. So would growing human tissue be okay/Moral? Again from my understanding i see nothing wrong with it. we can grow vaccines and cures for illness. And in terms of Growing a full human living human being, well i can't see us having the technology to Create a cousicousness with out better understanding of the field. So if say we truely cannot create "life energy" if you will to make the cloned body move than we'd have nothing more than an empty shell Yes? So then this "person"/person may or may not be considered in a vegatative state. If considered alive at all. But if people wish to harvest organs from the body than it would have to be alive so the organs were usable. Now to clear something up i am not saying that anyone that suffers an injury that leaves them in a vegatative is not human. By all means that is not what i'm saying. But How do we tell if a person's "Soul" still resides within the body? Obviously if the cloned person developed understanding and even showed signs of basic animal instincts than we would have no choice but to allow them rights. So again How do we tell if the "soul" resides within the body? What's more is, Can/could we at anytime have the ability to create such an energy identified as a "soul"? if we did then i would certainly agree that we have trully found the way to "play God". Up until that point i have seen nothing wrong with cloning. Just what to do once we can. So i was just wanted to see some other thoughts on it and figured this was a good a spot as any. Sorry if I've created an issue for ya.
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No, its good. Cloning creates a near-exact genetic copy (some DNA gets corrupted) of another being, but it cannot really replicate the soul. Think of it has pouring different water into nearly identical jars. Now, whether or not we are supposed to be copying God's jars is another issue altogether. It IS absolutely immoral to create a clone just to kill him for organs. That is murder. Even a clone is a person.
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I'm pretty busy, so I make this short: your last comment made me think and I came to one great decision!
I am going to make a sketch (a graphic) of the BLOODLINES of my most important reptilian characters!! Names, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters... and then, it's visible to everyone!
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"Reports of my assimilation have been greatly exaggerated." (Captain Jean-Luc Picard)
Buzz -
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Good character is doing the right thing when no ones looking.
The arguments in favor of each inhuman system (slavery and abortion) essentially favor privacy rights over human rights, and warp science to deny recognition of the humanity of certain groups (slaves and the unborn.)
20 years before the civil war, abolitionists were considered to be "religious fringe lunatics", and indeed, some of them were, especially John Brown, who was FAR worse than any abortion clinic sniper. 20 years later, the abolitionists had won.
Other parallels include a bad supreme court case which supports the "right" in question (Dred Scott v. Sanford and Roe v. Wade, respectively.)
Sadly, human society seems to have a tendency to "switch evils" when one is overcome; when slavery ended, we introduced Jim Crow, and when that ended, we had Roe v. Wade... When Roe falls (sooner or later...), we will probably think of some other insidious scheme to dehumanize people to benefit a few...Maybe something involving fully-grown human clones being used as organ banks to be slaughtered at will...
What are your thoughts on Cloning?
i myself am on the fence. Sure it isn't Natural way to have babies but by the same token if that is the case how many people would have died in Child birth over the years. I can't imagine a C-Section is Considered Natural.
So would growing human tissue be okay/Moral?
Again from my understanding i see nothing wrong with it. we can grow vaccines and cures for illness. And in terms of Growing a full human living human being, well i can't see us having the technology to Create a cousicousness with out better understanding of the field. So if say we truely cannot create "life energy" if you will to make the cloned body move than we'd have nothing more than an empty shell Yes? So then this "person"/person may or may not be considered in a vegatative state. If considered alive at all. But if people wish to harvest organs from the body than it would have to be alive so the organs were usable. Now to clear something up i am not saying that anyone that suffers an injury that leaves them in a vegatative is not human. By all means that is not what i'm saying. But How do we tell if a person's "Soul" still resides within the body?
Obviously if the cloned person developed understanding and even showed signs of basic animal instincts than we would have no choice but to allow them rights. So again How do we tell if the "soul" resides within the body? What's more is, Can/could we at anytime have the ability to create such an energy identified as a "soul"? if we did then i would certainly agree that we have trully found the way to "play God". Up until that point i have seen nothing wrong with cloning. Just what to do once we can.
So i was just wanted to see some other thoughts on it and figured this was a good a spot as any. Sorry if I've created an issue for ya.
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Always ready to bust some heads.
"Your brain gets smart but your head gets dumb."
- Not me....look it up
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Always ready to bust some heads.
"Your brain gets smart but your head gets dumb."
- Not me....look it up
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